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Not Another Co-Pro Project Reflective Interview
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yourself. So it feels Tell me about
your experience of being involved in not another coproduction project.
Um,
so
but the whole not another co-production project has been really
interesting.
Um, it's been quite experimental.
Um,
I think maybe that's something to do with the people who've been involved, Um,
and how we've kind of managed it.
Um, and it might have been quite different had it been
other other people.
Um,
but I think we were really clear from the start that we wanted
to to focus on building the connections
and the relationships with people and organisations
rather than
push people into a space where they felt they had to
go away and
do lots of tangible stuff. So I think that's made it
hard in some ways. Um,
but
definitely better.
So all of the projects and organisations that have been involved have kind of
in my opinion, this is
been involved in different ways,
engaged with it on different levels and perhaps taken away from it different,
different things, depending on on what they needed, if that makes
sense.
So what is the stuff that you've most enjoyed?
Um,
I think I've most enjoyed those just those moments,
those little moments where you realise that people
have get it
and and where things have shifted.
So I spent time with a team in one council,
Um, who are,
you know, quite
like nationally, seen as as leaders in terms of, um,
Co-production if if that's how we define what they do,
But actually just to sit with,
spend a day with them and and sit with them
and do the workshops and think through what CO-PRODUCTION really means
and see them come to a different understanding,
um, of what co-production. Is,
And to understand that it's more about the conditions that
they create for people so creating spaces where people they can
build the relationships with the communities and groups that they're
supporting and that they can really listen and be responsive,
um
was was a highlight.
And
then the flip side of that is their understanding of how much the system,
even in a very progressive, um, area holds them back.
Um,
so So that and then I think just in in the launch sessions, um,
where we provided some kind of activities and
reflective space for people to think through.
Really, what coproduction meant to them
again, just having, you know, those rooms full of people and people going through
those activities where we were pushing them to
think about their feelings and their own experiences,
Um,
and then applying that to the people
and groups and organisations they're working with,
um
and just seeing those light bulbs go on really? In terms of what they're doing.
Thanks.
Um,
So I was wondering, like, what
were you taking to other? Like what? You said experiments.
Or so is there stuff that you'll be taking
into other pieces of your work? So what? What will you take from
this experimental approach?
I think for me, um,
it it reinforces or reassures me that my approach to CO-PRODUCTION and and
and of colleagues that I work closely with is is the right one.
Um,
I think
this might be the first time we've
been so flexible in our approach to a longer term
project.
So we didn't sit down right at the start and set, you know,
there were some objectives, obviously,
that we had to to work to in terms of the numbers of workshops and things that we did and
and the reach in terms of numbers of people and that kind of thing.
But we didn't have a a very clear
plan in terms of what that would look like.
And I think that was
that was
the freedom that that gives you, then to go in and pull people together into a space.
But know that you haven't got to tick certain boxes,
makes it much easier for us to listen
and really respond to
what people need.
And especially, I think, because we had such a diverse, um, range of groups,
you know, from individuals who kind of just found their way into the space.
Um,
who may have a loose affiliation to a community organisation through to the
local authorities and foundation trust and bigger
national charities and anything in between.
So,
um,
now I can't remember what the question you just asked me was
so again, it's that it is the reassurance.
I think that to work in that way is is the right one.
But it makes me want to push the boundaries even further
and see, you know what we can, what we can do. And I know already
in terms of working with other organ
organisations.
It's given us the boldness to go and say Look, trust us
to not give you a very specific plan in terms of what we're going to do,
but allow us to get alongside and listen and really understand and and
think about what you need
and then we can work with you to plan.
And that's what we've done with each of the individual organisations.
I think that's been part of this.
Each bit of the bespoke part of what we've offered has been
different depending on what's different rather than just offering the same.
Um, because everybody was at very different places. So yeah,
my final question is, if you could
sum the project up into a word
or image, what would that be?
Um,
I don't I don't know.
Uh, probably a bit like a spider web. Um,
it's not a,
you know, the spider webs look quite chaotic,
but actually, there's a lot of intricacy in there and a lot of joining of dots,
and it's all networked and linked together.
Um really, really Well, so I kind of think it's it, it's
It's been a It's been a really lovely experience,
and I think It's led to some really beautiful moments.
Um, but they're all kind of joined,
Um, and the strength in that as well. I think if you use the spider Web analogy.
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