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HOUSE Project - NACRO Story - Storyteller describes his experience with housing
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and then
I'll ask you the question. So
can you tell me about the most significant
change your accommodation has made in your life?
Uh,
it's giving me stability.
Security,
Uh, it's gave me by self growth.
Is it? A
showed me that I can actually pay bills on time.
You know, I can
open up accounts and I was very much a cash in hand person.
I
ventured into the realm of direct debits and things like that.
It showed me that I've got potential to
move on and do other things,
and it's given me a bit of inclusion
because I wanna
where I live personally, I'm on a private city
and I actually communicate with my neighbours
now.
Previously
I didn't have communication with,
and
I meet people in my life, and it's it's a It's a massive, massive thing for me.
You know that it's a
growing up the way it did and living in the way it did previous to where I am now.
It's
it varies much. Uh,
we can do things. No, I can do things,
and
that's how I try to let me live.
It is, you know, be part of included in the community
and not separate from it.
What do you think has helped with you feeling part of of a community?
Well,
my
neighbours, for
a
start.
This is G,
man who lives next to me. And
he's a lovely, lovely man. And, you know,
I try and emulate that box.
You know, the
I was very much of a
I used to tell people that I didn't
I'm not a people person. I don't like people
where it was more. On the other hand,
I actually wanted to be around people,
but because I was
in bad situations and
abuse and drugs and drink,
I told people that I didn't don't like,
I don't like being around people. And,
um,
you can convince yourself of a different
way of being even even though now you know, it's
it's not,
you
know,
probably
people,
you know.
I'll try anything too fit
and
you know that can be detrimental.
But
being around people and
trusting in people,
I've you know, I've learned a lot about myself because
now we can actually pick in boundaries
around
neighbours,
other people in the community,
you know that I see wandering around
and
a fine. Build up good
memories.
No.
The bad boundaries that I used to
put
in before, you know, I had quite
bad boundaries. I would let people
do anything. Come and use
my flat. However
they wanted to.
There is no that. My thoughts
were
I'm responsible for it.
I'm responsible for who comes in it
and what they do while they're in there.
You know,
everything is down to me.
What?
Only learn that through, You know,
through the community that I built
not
just where I stay,
but
who I
interact
with.
I've got good people in my life, like not
the bad people.
And what do you think was like the turning point that helped you get those
more like positive role models in your life?
I think it was going through treatment
before me drug and alcohol addiction because I
I didn't know anything about myself. I didn't know what I liked what I liked doing.
I didn't know what clothes I liked. I didn't know what music I liked.
I just I just I. I had no clue. It was It was like a check. It was
you
see, when you drink
when you start That's the age you start growing
and
I was stuck
at that
age. I was stuck at night
and
I didn't know much about life in
general.
Pay bills, computers,
you know?
Yes, I had jobs, but every job I had,
I either had to
leave before we got sacked
or
I just up and
left.
And
that's not how
no atoms
and
that
was
an
atom.
But go through treatment and
I've been through a whole process drug and alcohol addiction.
I've been through treatment for that.
I still do fellowship meetings.
I've no got the confidence to
go learn new things,
you know,
going to learn, competing because
although I can do it, I'm terrible at it.
But
I've got the confidence,
and that's part of the self
self growth.
When you're in your own place, you know you have opportunities to go out there
and try new things.
It don't matter if you fail at it. It's
That's OK,
you know, as long as you give it a go and try
it.
What
I've been through a move on process as well,
which was part of the drug and alcohol rehab.
You then share the house with
other peers
because of his
Google list.
I had
what they call a chain number,
and the chain number allowed me access to temporary
housing.
But
I had to make sure myself that I was ready for that process
and I spent
three years sharing a
house with people.
Sharing a house with people is quite difficult. It's, you know,
because it's not like friends.
It's
got friends that you've grown up with and you've decided to go share a house.
It's people from different walks of life
and
you know, you have your ups and downs,
but
because they're in the same addiction or a similar addiction to you,
you learn how to work through things,
and
it it's all a process and it's all new things in teaching
and things. You know,
I've got to remain teachable in myself and to grow.
And I think that helped me for what I then got me temporary accommodation.
So you talk about having like, the kind of
like a growth mindset you're looking at ways you can develop. Is there
anything
any
I know we spoke before about volunteering that you do.
Is there any ways that you help other people
like grow and develop themselves.
We have a thing through fellowship
meetings. It's called the
Steps,
and
I'm coming
part way through mine,
and I have never people that
want me to take them through the
first steps.
I because I'm not totally complete with mine.
I can only offer suggestions and advice,
and I help them that
through me volunteering,
I'm always asked questions about
addiction and stuff, and
I can only tell them what I've done.
I can't tell them what to do.
I can't tell. This will work. You do that and you do this
because
different things work for different people. And
I can only suggest things and
tell them what what for me. And
that's the only thing I can
do.
It's
lead by an example and,
yeah,
a good example, you know, because they work in
an establishment.
We have guidelines. We have rules by government,
and
I've got to follow them as much as what the people living in there.
So,
you know, it's
not just that. I'll tell you what to do because I'm volunteering there.
This is what we all have to do. This is what we all have to vote for
because,
you know,
we all have somebody higher than ups.
And, you know,
at the end of the day, it's government.
And yeah,
never mind your manager,
but yet they above you. But
there's government. There's police. There's,
You know, there's only some of the above,
you know,
And I just tell him, like, you know, I'm not in charge,
You're not in charge,
So the people we have to be available
to
and everybody's kind of got the responsibility in themselves as well, I suppose.
Yeah,
yeah.
Is is there any any other things you want to reflect on in terms of, like,
the most significant changes that your accommodation need?
I know.
I'm trying to think back to what you said at the start.
There was, like, three key points.
Yeah, I'm I'm quite stable when you
like.
Previously I drug control
sleeping on the top bench.
Yeah,
to
sleep on somebody's sofa
to have a flat,
but not being responsible for that flat and
not paying the rent and giving it
up.
You know,
I've got security now
anyway,
because
when I close the door,
I'm safe.
I'm safe.
Got the things that I need within that flat. You know, it's
very much of what I need and what I
you know,
I might I might want a
60 inch flat
screen TV, but,
you know, I don't need that.
I've got a TV as long as I can see it and watch it.
Yeah, no,
I forgot a cooker. I forgot food there.
That's
that's me I don't need I don't actually need much in life,
you know? I don't need lots of money.
You know
who's been for these?
You know,
my council tax
paid
by,
you know, I just have to top up and, you know,
I have the ability to do it now.
Whereas before I would have run away from I think
I think pain. I think
you know the
electricity. You know, I would be in the house
drinking and using.
And although it worked,
I still didn't have electricity.
But I do know it's it's one of my
me O,
CD, V.
I've got to make sure there's electricity,
You know, I've got to make sure all my bills have come out on the day
that they're meant.
And I checked that now with me bank.
You know I didn't care what was in me bank. Once it was gone, it was gone.
You know,
it's
I'm not, You know, I'm I'm a like that.
It's,
you know, having your own flat.
It's
a privilege.
You know,
I'm quite a spiritual person nowadays, and,
you know, I find it less. It's, you know, because not a lot of people have,
um,
for me, it's, you know, somebody looks after me. Somebody supports me,
you know,
in this case, not pro.
They support me, and
you know they're here if I need to.
And do you think
like the relationship?
But what's the relationship like with the With With
Macro and the people that support you here,
I can pick up the phone anytime.
I understand they might not be able to answer straight away.
There's other people like me
that they help,
but they will always get back to me.
You know, they will always
contact me. Make sure I'm OK.
It's great. It's
you know
it's great,
and I'm even in a really fortunate position that
the boss of this
na
area you don't live too far from me. I tend to see him every
couple of weeks.
Brilliant.
And is is there anything else that you'd like to share or reflect on?
I
do worry
about the next step.
Yeah, OK, because it is
only temporary housing.
You know, I understood
that when it came in.
I do know people that have gone through similar processes with
different companies
and
with the, uh,
they went on to their
what they call forever home.
I don't know. I know there's a bidding system that
I'm getting put
on to for
natural.
There was talks about, you know, maybe going back into shared town.
That kind of upset me,
because to me, that's like going back.
And I didn't know
I'm not in control.
And that frightened me
And, you know,
on a personal
issue,
I don't think it would be
right to go back to where a place where you came from.
I think social housing should be available.
You know, whether it be,
uh, local authority, whether it be housing association,
but
put you on the label that you're that you're on.
Yeah, definitely.
No, no, I think that's it.
Thank you. Thank you for sharing. I'll stop recording
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